Would Mr. Pickens like to meet w/ the Membership? I think I can arrange it if he would care to come and speak

Hi TBoone Pickens, how can I get all of America wearing a tshirt to support you, I will give a portion of proceeds to free merchandise to groups in support of the Plan! www.zazzle.com/samfleet Would love to see it. I enjoy and it is a privilege to work toward a Renewable Energy Tomorrow!! Take Care and Go T Boone Pickens and the Pickensplan.com Army of great Americans!! Have a Windy Day! Sam

Natural Gas is a renueable recorce ask any cow. When you compress natural gas it turns to liquid thus LNG which can be transported by rail or tanker truck or ship. trucks and trains can be converted to run on LNG pipelines not needed just storage tanks with outlets to phill your car. Bub

Mr. Pickens; I agree that we need to move to an alternate fuel from foreign oil for our commercial and domestic transportation needs. My concern is the cost of current conversion and new vehicles that run on CNG. Of course this cost will reduce with the economy of scale as the change accelerates, but to move as quickly as possible I have decided to convert to propane as an interim step. Propane is 90% domestically produced and cost of conversion and fueling equipment is much lower. My propane distributor is setting my bulk refueling tank and providing the liquid fill tap for no charge, just a minimum propane purchase. This minimum will provide my needs for motor fuel for about a year. The total conversion cost is about $2,000 versus the $32,000 you mention in "Ask Boone" for the Honda GX and Phill. The propane conversion can be converted to CNG with a tank replacement and reprogramming the ECU when the costs finally are lower. While I understand that most people cannot do their own conversion as I plan to do, but it would be easy to train mechanics to make these conversions. Thanks for listening!

Give me a break! The only reason he has this interest is that he is losing control of his (and his cronies) stranglehold on what gave him his fortune. Though a "child of the Depression" he certainly had money to go to the movies, partake in candies, etc., always with some left over. I doubt he has wanted for very little over his lifetime. The only reason he wants this "energy plan" is due to him already poised to make another few billion off of his "fellow Americans" with his "plan". It is the fat cat "robber barons" such as him that have created the wide expanse between his bank account and 99 % of the rest of Americans. The biggest problem is that the "sheeple" of this country will listen to this drivel of his. If only we could harness the "hot air" that he and blowhards like him (and everyone else in the political arena) constantly spout. He has more money than God, and all of his "philanthropy" has been for personal gain (supposedly you can not buy your way into heaven, although I think that means tax deductible buying). As he (and people of his age and power who "wrung this country out for their own selfish reasons) will (hopefully) soon be in the grave, maybe it is time for him to do something for the good of the TOTALLY helpless, such as the animals and the land that he and his destroyed daily for the good of the few. Unfortunately, all that is left for most US citizens are the "pickens" left from legacies like his. His pants must be hard to keep up with all the "politicos" in his pockets. Get off my television!

Mr. Pickens...thank you for devoting your time to helping us become energy independent. Your plan not only sounds sensible, but doable. I have contacted all of my elected officials and included a link to your website in my email. I know you were in Kansas City, MO. Are you going to be in St. Louis of somewhere close by in the future? I would love to bring some friends and attend one of your town meetings. Do either of the presidential candidates embrace your plan? Are you on either of their "short lists" for vice president or head of the Department of Energy? Thank you again for using your expertise and commitment to break us away from the dependence on foreign oil. beggs909

even though you are welthy how about setting up little groups of co-op that provide solar and wind power back into the grid that could later be tied into the wind power grid that you have suggested. you can break the country up in to regions and sub section, find and create solar and wind power substations that somehow tie back into the grid and every one in that grid if they donated a sum get a rebate check or some sote of compensation in return for their donation. as one person in the region probally does not have the funds to get this done as a whole it could be come more of a reality. just a thought Brian

We needed to know that you purchased the Phill. Little details like this mean a lot to all of us out here in ningsville. We needed to know you had that natural gas car. When you say 'trucks', I see all the incredibly complicated economics and the vehicle strata that will be applied to juice a solution for NG in the transportation sector, cross your face in a nanosecond. And you are probably very tired of turning this around in your brain, because it is fiercely complicated ... but ... we need some more type of concrete media in a presentation by you that shows the type of vehicle next to a pie piece, etc ... so as to describe in words and pictures what types of natural gas vehicle solutions we will see everyday in the next 10 years. The natural gas transportation part of the plan needs to be promoted in a way that makes it as important as the Wind Farms. You know you will get the big private fleets to convert, but we don't know that. A few people are of the thinking that all cars should be natural gas fueled to help the plan, some hate the idea and it turns them away from the plan. Still more supporting the plan understand that there will be a certain subset of vehicles in the United States of America that run on natural gas, and that they use more fuel than consumers, so that adds up to a lot. A few understand that busses, and stepside utility vehicles in fleets for certain businesses can do well with natural gas. But there are lots of other types of 'fleet' vehicles, some very odd types of vehicles, that will be running on natural gas as a part of the private corporate pledge I know you must have. I really think there needs to be an in depth media presentation on this issue. Make this real. You have traveled extensively throughout 'corporate america'. You have probably seen fleets of vehicles parked near the runway that your jet lands on when you visit the big boys at other big companies. Many of us in America have no clue. We don't really understand how many government and private corporate fleet 'utility' vehicles exist. If a history channel type documentary were made with a conclusion that used pie charts and bar charts to indicate the ROEI, (return on energy independence), then this would go a long way to alleviate concerns amongst membership, (who support the wind initiative very passionately), concerns that there are to many rough edges on the natural gas part of this plan. There's a good show waiting to be made here about the natural gas vehicles. You coud do a spot of you changing the tire on your natural gas vehicle or something like that , I mean they'd eat it up, we love to see you hands on. It's better than T.V..

mr pickens would you please consider having one of your town hall meetings in western Oklahoma?? we really would like to help and would like to attend one of your meetings as a western Oklahoma resident it is hard to have any kind of a voice no one ever bothers with us so, if you would, please have a town hall meeting here in western Oklahoma it would be great...... also mr pickens if you think that sen mccain is going to back your plan you may be wrong the e-mail that i got from sen mccain in reply to my e-mail about supporting your pickens plan, was so far off base it is not even funny.... he was still talking about the gas tax recall for the summer ???? and drilling, drilling, drilling, for more oil that does not sound to me like he is much of a supporter........you may be a republican (so am i ) but i can not or will not vote for someone that will not support this plan i think everybody in this country should addopt this form of voting if they do not support it don't vote for them that is the only way this will ever get off the ground

Dear Boone, You probably know that there many thousands of oil and gas wells right here in the USA that have already been drilled, and have never been produced. Is this just greed on the part of the oil companies, waiting for the prices to go up even more? Why are they sitting on these resources which they have already invested the money to access? You may have heard that MIT scientists have found a low-cost catalyst which makes it almost 100% efficient to produce hydrogen and oxygen from water using electrolysis. It costs no more to convert existing vehicles to run on compressed hydrogen than to convert them to compressed natural gas. Burning hydrogen produces only water vapor. Why not skip the natural gas and go directly to hydrogen produced using electricity from wind, solar, wave, tidal and geothermal power?

If the hybread cars that don't have to be pluged in at night recharge the batteriers why can't the wheels turning have a larger generator to keep the batteries charged all the time? Or use a small wind turbin in the front of the car to collect air to keep the batteries charged or even solar pannels on the roof, hood or trunk to help keep the charged. Then they wouldn't have to use gas at all and would run forever on electricity. I am sure the technology is there if they would just put it to use but the automobile industry will do nothing until they are made do it buy customers who stop buying there products.

Hi Mr Pickens, I tell everyone I see to check out your plan, I've been e-mailing local government. I really would like to see this plan move forward. Our country is in trouble we need a plan "B". ( Boone ) I'll keep spreading the word and sending e-mail to as many as possible. FORIEGN OIL " THANKS BUT NO THANKS" John PA

Mr Pickens, Why are you giving nearly $100,000 to just Republican candidates and their party when they continue to deny and work against giving tax credits for renewable energy? They are working against your efforts. I understand that both parties need to work together to solve our energy problems but truthfully, you know as well as most know is your plan mirrors the Democrats. Should you be giving to both? It looks as if you continue to stick your leg out for the lions to chew on, not learning that you need that leg to stand on. I support your efforts 100% but question your logic of feeding those that are eating us.

What do you say when folks claim that this is about the "water pipeline" and what is your stance on that today?

Pick- It's hard to say this to you, since it is clear that you are a leader, not just a manager, and you have real guts to try to do what you have planned and started. I am a scientist, just retired from NASA. 30 years ago, I was aboard the world's first ocean thermal power plant that was just being tested and deployed off the west coast of Hawaii. Our funds were eliminated when Reagan took power, ending what would have been the test of the only real solution to global warming, cheap, inexhaustible, and abundant renewable power, and the end of US imports of foreign energy. We have lost 30 years. Your plan has a few glitches which only scientists familiar with the bigger global picture would recognize. (1) Natural gas is a carbon-based fuel. It produces carbon dioxide when burned. Global warming is caused by too much carbon dioxide in the air. We have more than ten times the natural level of carbon dioxide in the air today. That's why the poles are melting and the coral reefs are dying. Soon afterward, the plankton in the ocean may die. Plankton produces most of the oxygen that we breathe. We need to use some other fuel. Modify your plan to use the methane to produce ammonia for distribution as a fuel. Ammonia has three times the energy density of liquid hydrogen. It is a superior hydrogen carrier and is the fuel we used aboard the X-15 rocket plane at NASA. It burns with 42% efficiency in a turbodiesel. This change to your plan will solve the second half of the problem. (2) Wind power cannot replace oil and gas and its use in gas turbine power plants because it is not dependable. The wind blows when it blows, not when we command it. Gas turbines are used with low power factors to adapt the power output to the needs of the grid, i.e., for maximizing to peak power demand. Use the windmills to produce cheap power that would in turn produce ammonia at central facilities from air and water. Put the ammonia in pipelines to feed the network, and then in turn burn in gas turbines instead of oil and gas to produce peak power. Then the first half of the problem is also licked. Your solution is still only an interim step while the bigger issue is resolved: Cooling the oceans. Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion (OTEC) is the only technology that can do that. OTEC uses the heat from the ocean's surface to produce power. Each OTEC plant, about the size of an offshore platform, may produce the equivalent of one million barrels of oil each year, in the form of anhydrous ammonia or electricity. 30,000 such plants will meet the needs of the entire planet. Using OTEC will involve the whole world in successfully completing this step. Our Nation would reap immediate benefits from your plan, but would be positioned to take advantage of the OTEC deployments. With this approach, the ocean temperatures would reduce by one degree Celsius per decade. The oceans would be restored to balance, the environment saved, and our coastal cities rescued from submersion. This monumental task would not be possible with people like you and the ingenuity and hard work of the American people. I am proud to be one of your "troops" in this endeavor. --Paul

Right on, Paul! Please contact me! My name is Larry M. Aden, 2694 180th Street, Nemaha, Iowa 50567, 712-636-4490, lmaden@frontiernet.net I am not a blind supporter of Pickens' Plan, but would love to be convinced. Dr. Paul Curto has the right kind of ideas, except Anhydrous Ammonia (NH3) is only necessary for automotive fuel, not to pipe to generating stations. Hydrogen (H2) gas is perfectly compatible with Natural Gas in our existing Low-pressure pipelines, and saves the energy of the primary process of cryogenic distillation of air for the nitrogen and the secondary reactor process to make NH3. I spoke with Boone at the LeMars, Iowa Townhall, but he did not provide any specifics about his plan, nor seem to be very amenable to tweeking that which we do know about his plan to make it work for anybody but Boone, nor did he want the 'little people' to know what is problematical about his plan. I submit the following post on PickensPlan to help you understand my position: Local non-partisan action is the best way for us to progress in this struggle! Natural Gas (NG) serves best in large urban areas where access is universal, driving distances are shorter, and its cleaner burning yields maximum benefit. If we concentrate on big cities first, we can thus make the greatest improvement for the greatest number in the shortest time. In this political duopoly, our two major parties have always been more of a hindrance than a help to getting the People's business done. If we look back at our Founding Fathers for guidance, we see that both George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were adamantly opposed to organized political parties, and the word 'party' does not occur once in our beloved Constitution! If we want to progress on energy, or anything of import, we must ban all parties from ballot access, so all ideas have equal access, and the voter must vote for the candidate, not the party. I posted the below on other blogs to help us better understand the energy problems we all face: Compressed Natural Gas (CNG, mostly CH4) is much cheaper and slightly cleaner than Liquid Propane Gas (LPG, or C3H8), kits for conversion of autos to CNG, LPG, Butane (LBG, or C4H10), or Hydrogen (H2) are virtually identical except for orifice size, but only LPG kits are widely available, and cheap enough to warrant converting. No kits, that I know of, are designed to change automatically from one fuel to another on the go, as they well should be. NG will not remain cheap, if substantial conversion of our transportation sector to CNG occurs without equal increases in production of NG its component, methane (CH4), from biogas, or other gases from every possible source. We also unsustainably consume increasingly huge amounts of NG making Anhydrous Ammonia (NH3) and other industrial gases that could be more cheaply and sustainably made by electrolysis of water (H2O) and cryogenic distillation of air! President Bush has been absolutely right in pushing for H2 in every budget he has proposed for the last several years, but nobody listens to him, because he is just "an oil man". Hydrogen (H2) is the answer and is not expensive to make if we use wind energy and other cheap off-peak electrical power during the nighttime to produce it by electrolysis from water. This relatively-efficient, low-tech solution is over 100 years old, infinitely renewable, totally carbon neutral and more profitable than reforming CH4 from NG, as two pure industrial gases are produced - Hydrogen and Oxygen (O2)! H2 can also be metered into the mix in our buried low-pressure NG pipelines at any point where it is produced, eliminating the problems in H2 distribution and the need for huge electrical transmission lines from our wind farms. Below is an in-depth Letter to the Editor in a series that I had published: COMMON SENSE ON ENERGY, NOW!!!, Part II I wanted to discuss how we should make use of wasted local energy resources like that biogas flame at the sewage plant and the algae from Storm Lake for bio-fuels, but the nitwits are attacking on other fronts, so I must rush to the ramparts. This won’t be short, so if you would rather not learn anything today, or you don’t want your present world view to be confused by the facts, stop reading, now! I am often fond of saying that God created every person with a special talent and their own little piece of the truth. The real trick is in finding each persons talent to employ them to their fullest, and to recognize their little piece of the truth, so that we can put it in its proper place in the jigsaw puzzle of life to recreate that picture of eternal bliss in the Garden of Eden. Sadly, not every living being is willing to lend their talent and their knowledge to this quest. For this reason, we all continue to suffer. Texas oil man, T. Boone Pickens, whose talent seems to be making money for himself, made over $1Billion speculating in oil and gas in 2005, again in 2006, $1.5B in 2007, was earlier estimated to be worth $3 Billion, but has since been instrumental in pushing crude oil beyond reason with his very public pronouncements that “oil is going to $150”. It is now hovering around $145 as he quietly sells the barrels he bought at $50, after all, he’s not greedy; he doesn’t have to have every penny of that $150! Whenever you hear a speculator say one thing, you should run the other direction! Just like when George Soros caused the devaluation of the US Dollar, when he announced to the world that he was getting out of Dollars and buying Euros. That should have been interpreted by all of us that Soros had already sold all of his Dollars and bought all the Euros he could buy. He went public, because he wanted everyone else to do the same, so he could get out of Euros near their high and buy Dollars cheap. Because Soros is rich, every fool listens to him. All the lemmings bit on this one, and rushed to dump their Dollars, stressing our economy and raising the price of food, fuel and everything we buy in the process. George only wants money and a Dem elected President, and he doesn’t care who he has to hurt to get it! Paraphrasing Josef Goebbels, Hitler’s Minister of Propaganda, “If you mix a big lie in with a little truth, and tell it often enough, you can convince everyone it is the truth.” That is what T. Boone is doing with his very expensive TV ad campaign touting PickensPlan.com to reduce our dependence on foreign oil. Everything he has to say about the harm buying foreign oil is doing to our economy is absolutely true. That we should use more of our own CNG (compressed natural gas) for our autos is also true, and absolutely achievable with technology we have had for decades. That we should make more use of wind and solar energy, of course, but, that we can take Natural Gas (NG) away from electrical generation and replace that with wind and solar power shows he is either extremely ignorant of the fundamental facts about electricity, or he is trying to pull the wool over our eyes for his own profit! Call me cynical, but I am betting on the latter, as recently, Pickens has heavily invested the profits of his oil speculation into both wind and natural gas! He has also invested heavily in water rights, what should that tell us about what ‘shortage’ might develop next? I am all for anyone making money, just do it honestly, without hurting your fellow man in the process, always giving your trading partners equal fair market value. To see why Pickens’ Plan is not perfectly honest and achievable, we need to understand our energy consuming habits and needs. Electrical power providers categorize our energy demand as 3 types of “load” – base, intermediate, and peak. “Base load” is the minimum level of electrical power consumption at any one moment throughout any hour of every day of the year. This is constant demand and requires constant generating capacity, as alternating current cannot be stored, it must be used at the moment it is generated. They use hydroelectric, nuclear, and coal-fired steam turbine generating plants to provide this power, as these are cheap, constant and dependable, but cannot be started and stopped quickly to meet new load. Geothermal, ocean thermal, offshore wind, wave, and ocean current energy could also be used for this load, and these represent the only safe and inexhaustible supply of renewable energy available to us to address ‘base load’. Why does no one even mention them in this debate on what we should do about energy? Why should we build nuclear plants when we haven’t even sunk one turbine in the Gulf Stream, yet? “Intermediate load” is the demand that increases from 6AM, when the world starts to stir, to 9PM, when it starts to wind down, getting ready for bed. This happens like clock work every day, regardless of the weather, it can be planned for, so they fire the boilers in those coal-fired plants, a little harder, a little ahead of time, to bring more steam turbine generators on-line, or open another gate on a hydroelectric dam, when you and I want to shower and go to work. “Peak load” is different every day of every season, depending heavily upon the weather and variable human activity. It is normally between 12 Noon and 4PM, with space heating and air conditioning being the greatest variable in demand. This demand changes rapidly and requires instantaneous response in generating capacity from hot gas turbines, which burn NG. There is no alternative to this gas, except other more expensive gases. If we take this NG from electric companies, we will be constantly plagued with brownouts and blackouts, or see massive increases in the price of our power and fuel, or both. Wind cannot replace this power, in fact, our need for NG in electrical generation will actually increase with increased dependence on the fickle wind, as it almost never comes when we really need it. Most of the best wind comes at night, when we do not need it at all. The power companies really hate to be forced to buy wind power for 3.5cts/Kwh while shutting down coal-fired generation that costs them 1ct/Kwh. Who could blame them? Likewise, where the best wind comes, from West Texas to North Dakota, we do not have the necessary transmission lines, because there are few people living there to serve this power to. High tension interstate transmission lines are very expensive, and very intrusive! Nobody wants these monstrosities built in their back yard! What we could, and should, do is hook every alternative energy source we can find to a local load that matches it. Solar photoelectric energy is a good match for air conditioning, refrigeration, and water pumping. Demand for these always increases when the sun shines, perfect match! It is expensive, inefficient, and nearly useless for anything else. Solar heating is little better, but should be passively designed into every new building. Wind is a great match for space heating, water pumping, battery charging and other automated industrial processes that can be run when the wind blows, and shut off when it doesn’t, such as cryogenic distillation of air, hydrogen electrolysis, anhydrous ammonia (NH3) production, and other industrial gas production from these processes. Huge quantities of our precious NG are spent senselessly in manufacturing NH3 for fertilizer, when it has long been cheaper to return to the original carbon-neutral, and infinitely renewable process of making it from water and air. We must rewrite the REA charter to cover all forms of rural energy distribution, empower local REC’s to fund, sell and maintain distributed generation systems for their members, and to empower those members to sell all forms of energy directly back. Then, we must erect wind and water current turbines everywhere we can possibly put them, thousands of big ones, and millions of smaller ones between them, that we manufacture here (not expensive imports). Each can be wired into our present electrical grid without building new transmission lines. Then, we must hook each to a water electrolyzer, and a booster pump, to store the off-peak energy as Hydrogen gas (H2), putting this, along with methane (CH4) from our every hog house, poultry house, cattle feedlot, and sewage plant, into the local low-pressure NG pipelines that serve our houses, farms and industries. Underground low-pressure NG pipelines are cheap and innocuous. NG, mostly CH4, the very same biogas produced by every marsh, cow stomach, and manure pit, is compatible with both gasoline and diesel engines, and is perfectly interchangeable with propane, butane, and Hydrogen in low pressure gas systems (<300psi). These gases are extremely clean burning and can be used interchangeably in any gasoline motor with a truly flex-fuel system having an adjustable orifice. H2 and CH4 are perfectly compatible, clean, safe and infinitely renewable; they also store well and liquefy under comparable conditions, but only at very high pressures (5400psi), or very low temperatures (-253C). CNG is normally packed at 3000psi for auto fuel, which is too high to be compatible with other gases, and too low to liquefy. So, we should standardize compressed gas auto fuel storage pressure with liquid propane gas (LPG) at 300psi, then, use LPG, ethanol, or gasoline, only for long trips, and NG for our every day commutes. With a small pump, we could all fill our cars and tractors at home from our own NG/H2 pipeline meter for about a Dollar per gallon gasoline equivalent! When Pickens wants us to do that, I’ll support him, 100%!

I have been thinking about the ITC and PTC and the reasons always given for the times it was not approved. One that stands out is that some members of congress will not vote for it because there is no source of revenue provided in the bill to offset the cost of funding it. It would appear to me, and correct me if I am wrong but before any credit for the production of power would take place it would be after the wind turbine is producing power. Before this happens jobs would have been created, construction companies and manufacturers would have already realized increased revenues and tax revenue from the project in the form of various taxes would already be flowing in to the City, State and Federal Government. What more could they ask for, they get their revenue first. On the ITC it is simple, without it they get more unemployment, higher energy costs and loose all the tax revenue stated above. Is it me or is there something wrong with their logic. A 10 year extension of the ITC and PTC really does not cost anything to the tax payers; it’s an investment in our future isn’t it?

Please ask Boone Pickens and Aubrey McClendon to find out from Matt Weaver how to make converting to natural gas irresistible.

Boone, I really want to sign the petition but knowing politicians, they are only going to answer in platitudes. Could you consider adding something like: ".... without platitudes and providing a level of detail I can use to determine your plan’s probable success" at the end of your statements. Then they would be on notice-no politics!

OK now what do we need to do to make this all happen as soon as possible?

Why not also advocate electric cars? The Picken's plan pushes wind as a source--but why so much natural gas? That is a disconnect. It would make sense to switch to electrics as the cleaner transportation and renewable.

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I drive Honda GX (NGV) and use Pickens Clean Energy Natural Gas Stations. I am extremely disappointed in his message. Right now, in Southern California Pickens' Clean Energy Stations are charging the same price for Natural Gas as Gasoline. In July, natural gas was 1 dollar cheaper and NGV made sense. Gasoline has dropped to $2 buck from over $4 a gallon. Natural Gas went from $3 to $2 a GGE. Natural Gas on the NYMEX has dropped by 60%. Pickens' is exploiting the early adopters of NGV, because he has a monopoly on commercial Natural Gas Stations in Southern California, which has the largest population of NGV in the nation. If natural gas is the future, it needs to be competitive to gasoline. The Pickens plan is not about making BP Capital billions of dollars in Hedge fund fees. Fully electric cars are a decade away. Natural Gas is the bridge to reduce America Gasoline dependancy. I did not buy a natural gas car to make Pickens the next JD Rockfeller.

Mr. Pickens,

Mr. Pickens, please consider lending your expertise and influence in promoting gasification of energy plants. In my city, "pet coke" is proposed to be burned by a proposed plant, "LasBrisas." Is it only because of their economics (they cannot make as much money if they gasify)? We citizens are hugely concerned for the health and safety of our air and want to persuade that plant's management they must use gasification. Can you help? Many thanks,